"This rally is based on a lot of hope that we are going to see a V-shaped economic recovery in the U.S. The S&P 500 is priced for 4% real GDP growth. We don’t see it."
I am empathetic towards Mr. Rosenberg as I too have had a cautionary view towards equities since mid-May. Being cautious while the market goes up day after day and not seeing what everyone else is seeing (sic) is very frustrating. But leave it to Mr. Market. One minute you are a hero for calling the recession, the next minute you are a goat for missing the recovery. The market beast can be very humbling.
But truth be told, Mr. Rosenberg could be right in the end, and I believe we are now approaching that juncture in the markets that could prove him right. In essence, this is his last chance.
In particular, there is a growing divergence between the 10 year Treasury yield, which is falling, and the equity markets, which are rising.
In "Long Term Treasury Yields: Someone Is Going To Be Wrong", which I wrote on August 26, 2009, I stated:
"the divergence between lower yields - a sign of economic weakness - and higher equity prices - a sign of economic strength - will not persist for long. Most importantly, it was the failed signal in June, 2002 that coincided with a 25% plus drop in equities over the next two months. It should be noted that the current set up in Treasury yields and likely failure is exactly the same as in 2002!"
So why is this Mr. Rosenberg's last chance? Treasury yields are falling (and likely to go lower) and during equity bull markets that is a good thing. But if we are still in a bear market, then falling Treasury yields is a bad sign for equities. And this is the first time since the March, 2009 bottom that Treasury yields are falling. So Mr. Rosenberg still has a chance of being proven right.
Let me demonstrate graphically. See figure 1 and figure 2, weekly charts comparing the S&P500 (symbol: $INX) to the yield on the 10 year Treasury (symbol: $TNX). (Treasury yield data is hidden.) When the 14 week rate of change (i.e., a simple default value) of the 10 year Treasury yield is below zero (as it is now), the price bars appear red. Blue price bars (on the S&P500 price graph) are when the 14 week rate of change on the 10 year Treasury yield is positive.
Figure 1. S&P500 v. 10 Year Treasury Yield/ weekly
As you can see, there is a lot of red from 2000 to 2003 and from 2007 to the recent bottom in 2009. During these bear markets, lower yields translated into equity weakness. Currently, the 14 week rate of change of Treasury yields is negative, and as stated previously, this is the first time since the March bottom.
In figure 2, which is from 1988 to 2000, lower 10 year Treasury yields (red bars) always translated to higher equity prices. The lone exception was 1998. After all this was a bull market. Referring back to figure 1, lower Treasury yields were kind to equities during the bull run from 2003 to 2007.
Figure 2. S&P500 v. 10 Year Treasury Yield/ weekly
So this is it. This is where the rubber meets the road for Mr. Rosenberg. This is the first time since the March, 2009 low that the 10 year Treasury yield is heading lower (on a 14 week rate of change basis). If equities are in a new bull market as many claim, then lower yields will be a buying opportunity. Mr. Rosenberg will suffer the market's humiliation. If equities are in a bear market and the past 6 months have been nothing more than a monster bear market rally, then lower yields should spell trouble for equities. They did in 2002.
So hang in there, Mr. Rosenberg. I hope you don't throw in the towel. You could turn out to be a hero after all.
4 comments:
Hi Guy,
It happens to me to read David Rosenberg's writings from time to time as well and I really appreciate the quality of its reports.
It seems to me this recession is over and we'll experience some positive GDP for 1/2 quarters. For most out there, it won't feel like as there won't be any recovery (or very smallish).
As for the stock market, I honestly don't know; stocks are not cheap (you still can find some bargains on PinkSheets) and they discount a hell of a recovery. I'm not sure profits will be there to justify prices. But we know there are always plenty of people to do the dirty job in both ways (up or down) and we can build another bubble with no problem (the money FED gives away it surely doesn't help the economy but it fuels speculation).
There is another question: is a 2nd recession around the corner? I personally don't know.
Voila, a bit of "economic" talk :) We'll see if Rosenberg is right or not.
Rosenberg is just one highly visible individual who has not bought into the whole recovery thing. There are others. For Rosenberg, this has always been a bear market rally and it remains so.
On the other hand, you have Doug Kass who was bullish back in March and has turned bearish of late. He is a little more pragmatic or opportunistic in his approach.
As a bear from the March bottom, Rosenberg has yet to crack in his outlook. Curious to know when he throws in the towel if market moves higher.
In essence, I have adapted a similar outlook. At this level, the market is too risky. There are better places to hide. I have stressed over the past 6 weeks or so.
"In essence, I have adapted a similar outlook. At this level, the market is too risky."
Yep, agree with that; yet, in the meantime, it will move 25% higher from here. I know, I know...but the market just loves to be stupid...
Nice post, I will be putting a note regarding this article on my blog. Rosenberg is one writer who I love reading frequently so I hope he keeps his daily updates free!
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